Talk:Mods

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B - This article is considered a B-class article on the wiki quality scale

Master mod list[edit]

As this mod list is actively maintained in the forums as the "master mod list", I've removed the incomplete table here and directly linked to that list. The maintainer prefers to maintain it in forums instead in the wiki, and I see little value in having a duplicate list and incomplete list here. --Spyhawk (talk) 11:31, 18 May 2016 (CEST)

Not Sure I agree totally here.. ^
Having a modlist on a WIKI means that the mods also can have their own wiki-pages here on the wiki. But that may be for later when the mods becomes too big for a forum post to cover. --provet (talk) 21:05, 22 May 2016 (CEST)
We have the mod list on the EU4 wiki and since its release I think 4 mods have made the effort to put up a page. If mod creators want a page on the wiki then we're happy to host it but the mod team will have to maintain the page because the wiki team won't. Dauth (talk) 22:34, 22 May 2016 (CEST)


From my CK2 mods experience, I'd say to list ONLY the mods that have their own page on this wiki, which might range from a short description written by a mod user, to a detailed page maintained by the mod team.
This usually means only medium/big mods with a modding team, as smaller mod maintained by one person tend to deprecate quickly when no longer maintained.
Also, to avoid duplication, the "compatible version" should only be mentioned on the mod page, not on the list (such pages could be moved later to an unmaintained sub-section, if need be)
I find such mod pages very useful:
  • for indexation/linking when sending release notice on the web/social media, due to modding forum requiring registration
  • due to forum threads being only editable by their creator, thus severely limiting collaboration on any kind of big mod documentation. Thus modders spend valuable time answering the same questions again and again in their forum.
Romulien (talk) 18:59, 23 May 2016 (CEST)

Skymods page[edit]

SkyMods is a scraping site. If it isn't them adding themselves to the relevant page (Mods), then I'd suggest the page be better policed. AlphaAsh (talk) 15:59, 1 June 2018‎ (CEST)

SkyMods is needed as external plattform for users with steam issues. also its not reasonable for 1 user to determine where i can offer my mods. this link is important for me and my community. i strongly vote against this change. if alpha ash have law issues with third party pages, he can not fight it here on this wiki. Grinsel 04:37, 2 June 2018
edit: @Dauth please make sure that i am right. the link was used since years on this wiki, and it should further used. Grinsel 05:01, 2 June 2018

[Unindented] Just a general note: The wiki does not have a PM system. If you want someone specific to see your post it is best to leave them a note on their talk page. Please sign your posts with ~~~~. ~ SolSys (talk) 09:29, 2 June 2018 (CEST)


The recent edits on this page got me thinking if a link to this site should be hosted in this wiki. Many of the mods that are on that page are uploaded without the modders' permission after getting them from the Workshop (in fact, it happened with my mod). 190.176.164.239 10:44, 2 June 2018 (CEST)

Edit: I will add more information. First, under the Steam Subscriber Agreement (Specifically, Section 2, Subsection G), users aren't allowed to republish Workshop Content (emphasis mine): "Except as otherwise permitted under this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use), or under applicable law notwithstanding these restrictions, you may not, in whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, publish, distribute, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, create derivative works based on, or remove any proprietary notices or labels from the Content and Services or any software accessed via Steam without the prior consent, in writing, of Valve."

Second, the site also looks like to have advertisement too, which is against Paradox's Mod Policy: "Any use of the mod tools, and creation and publication of mods, is for strictly non-commercial purposes only, and you may not accept any fees or donations for your creation and publication of mods." 190.176.164.239 11:23, 2 June 2018 (CEST)

Thank you for those points. Furthermore, these wikis are funded and maintained by Paradox and we have to follow their rules for modifications. In this case forum:708039 rule number 10. Which specifically states:
10) The Mod should be exclusive to the members of this forum and or Steam workshop.
As I have just found that I was able to download a mod from skymods without verifying that I was logged in to steam or the forums it is that skymods is breaking those rules. Therefore I will be removing the link and adding it back without clear discussion with me or other moderators will be considered vandalism. If a modification leader/team has an issue with the policy of the platforms offered by Paradox (the forums or steam community) then they should take this up with Paradox directly as we on the wikis do not influence Paradox policy. Independently the page was reassessed as it hadn't been assessed since we decided to focus on a forum based modification list instead of one here too. Thanks for the discussion. Dauth (talk) 11:49, 2 June 2018 (CEST)

Can anyone add a mod page?[edit]

Just wondering, if my mod is big enough that it needs some documentation on how to use it properly, can I just create a page for it here? What is the policy on that?

You're welcome to add your mod. The requirement is that you maintain the page, we'll of course help with setup. You should have links to either the forums or steam for the mod. Do you have any specific questions? Also please sign your talk page edits with ~~~~. Thanks, Dauth (talk) 20:18, 10 December 2018 (CET)